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June 8th, 2004
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Everyone else is posting about the random bag checks the T will be starting next month, so I might as well too. I'm not sure I have anything coherent to say about this, so I'll just post the 4th Amendment:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I'm going to carry this around with me until I have it memorized. We'll see if I have the balls to recite this instead of opening my bag if asked.

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From:beowabbit
Date:June 8th, 2004 05:45 pm (UTC)
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I was thinking about filling my backpack with dozens of copies of 1984 (well, my first thought was really raunchy pornography :-), but I like the idea of hundreds of slips with the fourth amendment on them even better.
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From:spwebdesign
Date:June 8th, 2004 10:04 pm (UTC)
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This begs the question: what is unreasonable? Surely it is an inconvenience. It's bound to be implemented poorly and cause all sorts of delays and frayed nerves. But, with the current atmosphere of fear and terrorism promulgated by the $hrub regime, are random bag searches in the public transit system of a major U.S. city unreasonable?
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From:rosefox
Date:June 9th, 2004 03:03 am (UTC)
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Yes.

I grew up in New York in the 80s and learned very early on how to stay in well-lit populated areas and scream "This person is not my daddy!" if someone grabbed me. My mother was mugged at gunpoint in a stairwell. Random bag searches wouldn't have stopped any of that.

My boyfriend went off to work on 9/11/01, just the way he did every day. They didn't find his body until Christmas Eve because they had to dig all the way down to the plaza; he made it out of the Towers before they fell on him. Random bag searches wouldn't have kept him alive.

I am sick and fucking tired of government agents and agencies claiming that the only way to protect people is to abrogate the civil liberties that they are also sworn to protect. They're wrong, and what we end up with is a gutted Constitution and dead people. Our soldiers are theoretically in Iraq and Afghanistan (anyone remember Afghanistan?) to give their lives in defense of liberty, justice, and the American way. I personally consider it the responsibility of every adult not in uniform to make sure that all three of those still exist when they come home.

EOR
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From:queue
Date:June 9th, 2004 05:06 am (UTC)
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What Rose said.
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From:treacle_well
Date:June 9th, 2004 05:13 am (UTC)
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with the current atmosphere of fear and terrorism promulgated by the $hrub regime, are random bag searches in the public transit system of a major U.S. city unreasonable

random bag searches in the public transit system are at least in part a tool to perpetuate the current atmosphere of fear and terrorism promulgated by that regime.
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From:hrafn
Date:June 9th, 2004 06:37 am (UTC)
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Yes, it's unreasonable. It's an excercise in futility, unless the entire point is to make sure the DNC people don't expire in a fit of paranoia that they just aren't safe without this additional bit of DNC/T-related aggravation. They want to keep dangerous items off the T, they have to check every bag. Random isn't going to cut it.
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