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February 13th, 2004
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magid just called me. A little while ago, she developed some film that had been sitting around for years. One of the rolls had some pictures of me, from when I took her to one of the harbor islands for her birthday in 2002. She was showing her many rolls of pictures to someone at work, someone I used to work with, too. This person (who is female and whom I happen to think is extremely attractive) said that the picures don't look like me, that I'm "cuter than that", especially when I smile.

*smiles*

Now, I don't actually think that I'm cute at all, but it's very pleasing to have someone say that. And, really, she's definitely very attractive to me on more than just a physical level. Too bad I almost never see her.

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From:spwebdesign
Date:February 13th, 2004 10:30 am (UTC)

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that I'm "cuter than that",

The comma goes inside the ending quotation mark, thankyouverymuch! ;)
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From:queue
Date:February 13th, 2004 10:34 am (UTC)

Re: Queue Point

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Sorry. That's not a typo; it's a stupid grammar rule that I choose to ignore.

I think it looks awful to include the punctuation inside the quotation marks, so, in cases where the punctuation is not part of the quotation, I leave it outide.

Thanks for playing our game.
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From:treacle_well
Date:February 13th, 2004 10:41 am (UTC)

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But is it a stupid grammar rule, or an at-one/some-time maybe sensible typesetting rule?

I agree that from a grammar point of view it is stupid. I don't think it's standard for Brits, or Canadians (or at least one of those if not both), as I've come across variations in this when doing my NBP reading.

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From:queue
Date:February 13th, 2004 10:46 am (UTC)

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Good point. I don't know the history of that particular "rule", and it's probably more of a style issue than a grammar issue.
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From:bubblebabble
Date:February 13th, 2004 12:39 pm (UTC)

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Also has to do with programmers/computer stuff.

Commas inside of quoted strings, or inside descriptions of what you're supposed to type, can really throw things off. Hence, I've gotten in the habit of always putting punctuation outside of parens or quotes, and never looked back. (Only exception is when a whole sentence exists inside parens, like this.)
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From:spwebdesign
Date:February 13th, 2004 10:50 am (UTC)

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I don't know if it's a grammar rule or a style rule, but I have been conditioned to consider that wrong, and I think the comma outside the quotation mark looks hideous. Ah, to each his own. ;)
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From:queue
Date:February 13th, 2004 10:57 am (UTC)

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How about this:

Who said, "God is dead"?


You wouldn't put the question mark inside the quotes, because then you would be attributing the question mark to the quotation, which is incorrect.
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From:treacle_well
Date:February 13th, 2004 11:14 am (UTC)

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But it doesn't look hideous.

I agree that a comma outside a quotation mark looks awful, but I also think it doesn't make sense. I guess that means I prefer "ugly and sensible" to "beautiful but stupid".
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From:treacle_well
Date:February 13th, 2004 12:11 pm (UTC)

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Ah, just realized why when I re-read that it didn't make sense.

Um, I think a comma outside a quotation mark looks awful, but I also think a comma inside a quotation mark (in the circumstances we are writing of) doesn't make sense.

and then so forth.
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From:spwebdesign
Date:February 13th, 2004 12:43 pm (UTC)

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You are correct. The rule applies differently to question marks than it does to periods and commas. The question mark only goes inside the quotation marks if it is part of the quotation.
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From:jencallisto
Date:February 13th, 2004 11:42 am (UTC)

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i have been known to deliberately rearrange sentences to avoid having to decide whether to follow the rules or be pointedly sensible. given that whole editing-for-a-living thing i mostly default to following the rules these days if i can't or don't feel like bothering to rearrange, especially because i don't mind a little bit of unreasonable whimsical tradition in my day-to-day life.
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From:zzbottom
Date:February 13th, 2004 12:45 pm (UTC)
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Isn't it great to have you moment of basking in your cuteness lost in a sea of grammar geeking? lol
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From:queue
Date:February 13th, 2004 04:56 pm (UTC)

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Thank you.

Heh.
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From:dannarra
Date:February 13th, 2004 12:48 pm (UTC)

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What, pray tell, is that a picture of? And do I really want to know?

It looks like a monkey giving someone a crotch pat.
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From:queue
Date:February 13th, 2004 04:57 pm (UTC)

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Close. It's a statue of a little boy in a fountain at the Public Garden in downtown Boston. That's me he's giving a crotch pat to.
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From:dannarra
Date:February 17th, 2004 07:58 am (UTC)

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ah...monkey would have been funnier...
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From:queue
Date:February 17th, 2004 08:00 am (UTC)

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The next time a monkey grabs my balls, I'll be sure to get a picture.
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From:dannarra
Date:February 17th, 2004 08:01 am (UTC)

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what are the odds on that one?
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From:magid
Date:February 17th, 2004 08:21 am (UTC)

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Well, SPWebDesign has a gorilla suit...
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From:dannarra
Date:February 17th, 2004 05:15 pm (UTC)

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oye...better pass on that one
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