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February 5th, 2003
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If you don't make a habit of reading news, you probably should read the latest post. Posting limits made a brief debut and are going to be going into effect soon.

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From:browngirl
Date:February 5th, 2003 07:26 pm (UTC)
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Meep! Thank you!

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From:theora
Date:February 5th, 2003 08:15 pm (UTC)

Jesus

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I should have known better than to start reading the comments....
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From:zzbottom
Date:February 5th, 2003 10:45 pm (UTC)

Re: Jesus

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I couldn't even imagine reading them when I looked... 1032 comments!
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From:bitty
Date:February 6th, 2003 05:03 am (UTC)
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I think 20 per paid/perm user is quite fair, actually. The 3 for free users seems kinda' low. Then again, it just may encourage people to pay up :)

I can't see how this is going to work well with communities, though. At all.
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From:magid
Date:February 6th, 2003 05:44 am (UTC)
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The problem I have isn't the 20-post limit, though three is too low (from my point of view; I go over that most days!); it's
(a) no advance warning
(b) no clue whether there will be other limits (comments?), and if so, when (Will there be notice in "news" if this posting limit is enough to get server traffic down to manageable level?).
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From:bitty
Date:February 6th, 2003 06:16 am (UTC)
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(a) valid point - and if people weren't talking about it on my friends' page, i wouldn't even know
(b) if they create a comments limit, i'm screwed. although it'd probably be more effort than it's worth.

it's made me very glad to have invite codes, and that i've kept two other LJs separate.
what's really a major problem, however, is the effect this will have on people who use this as an actual journal. ie, private posts. Now, these posts don't show up on friends' pages, they don't have any comments, etc. But I know a lot of people (yourself included?) make a lot of private posts in addition to their public ones. Those posts aren't causing much of a drain on the system. Then again, there's nothing to stop someone from creating a private post and then later publiizing it as a get-around. Which I've actually done before, but not for that reason. (It's for when I haven't finished something. I privatize it until I have a chance to complete it.)
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From:magid
Date:February 6th, 2003 06:47 am (UTC)

Private posts

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Funny how so many of the comments in the initial brouhaha over posting limits ignored that people might make private posts: "I can't imagine anyone posting that much," "I am glad my friends don't post that much," etc.

Yeah, I make a bunch of private posts. For me, it's easier to have a journal in one place; paper is automagically all private posts, while LJ means I can share what I want, while still posting about other things that won't see the light of anyone else's day (as it were). As you said, I don't see these as a particular drain on the system (not like, oh, that post about posting limits! :-).

I would've expected a q & a period before initiating posting limits, so a lot of these issues could've been worked out (and clearly posted) in advance. Ah, well.

(You leave me curious about the other two LJs, however.)
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From:bitty
Date:February 6th, 2003 07:24 am (UTC)

Re: Private posts

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For me, it's easier to have
a journal in one place; paper is automagically all private posts,
while LJ means I can share what I want, while still posting about
other things that won't see the light of anyone else's day


Exactly. My more journal-like posts are locked private, too. (As few as they are.)

(You leave me curious about the other two LJs, however.)

you're not the only one.

Another issue I'm curious about is how they're defining "per day." Look at awfief, for example. She makes what looks like, in her journal, one post a day. But often they're all posted at the same time. I've done this too. I go away on a trip, and I backdate several posts. Do those posts count as my posts made for the day they're dated, or the day they're posted? I've been backdating a lot lately.

I so don't want to wade through 1000+ comments to see if new has cleared these details up.

Gah! I also wonder whether they're saying 3, so that people'll get all bent out of shape, and then 5 seems like a boon. I mean, whether 5 (or something) is the intended limit.
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From:magid
Date:February 6th, 2003 07:34 am (UTC)

Re: Private posts

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I was curious about how back-dating would work, too. I mean, if someone really wanted to, they could, say, double their maximum posts by choosing another year (1960 sounds good) to put more posts in.

I also don't intend to wade through 1800 or so comments (most of which say approximately the same thing); I assume that there will be another post to news once the details are worked out more thoroughly.
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From:magid
Date:February 6th, 2003 08:08 am (UTC)

Re: Private posts

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The link took me back to this post & comments....
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From:bitty
Date:February 6th, 2003 08:14 am (UTC)

Re: Private posts

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d'oh. silly buffers.
i'm not going back there.

anyway, people were reminding everyone how important free users are to the community, and how unfriendly it would be to lose them.

also, community posts - that makes it really easy to go over 3/day.
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