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January 13th, 2003
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Notes from a commute
Massachusetts General Hospital is looking for "healthy adult smokers" who have smoked "at least 15 cigarettes per day for at least 3 years" for a study on a new drug. I suppose they mean healthy besides all of the crap in their lungs.

Aggressive Globe marketing. "Free Globe! Free Globe! Free Globe!" Right next to the guy trying to give away the Metro. The Metro is the daily free paper handed out to commuters. This is the second time now that I've seen the Globe seller right by the Metro person giving away free newspapers. Interesting to note, but I just wish they'd get out of my way when I'm trying to get to another T platform.

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From:bitty
Date:January 13th, 2003 05:12 am (UTC)
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yes, but have you had a metro peddler follow you into the station and block off the turnstile?
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From:queue
Date:January 13th, 2003 05:20 am (UTC)
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No. If that had happened to me, I would have shoved the person.


Well, okay, probably not, but it's nice to think thoughts like that sometimes.
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From:bitty
Date:January 13th, 2003 05:34 am (UTC)
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Exactly. I may wish to be violent and shove him aside, but really, I'm chickenshit.

Instead, I complained to the T employee in the booth, and Obnoxious Peddler was reassigned elsewhere.
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From:surrealestate
Date:January 13th, 2003 06:46 am (UTC)
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Being a smoker doesn't make a person unhealthy any more than being a meat eater does, even if they are both factors in overall health.

I have an urge to go find the apppropriate studies to cite here, but I'm going to be lazy and work instead. (Okay, that didn't quite make sense, but anyway.)
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From:queue
Date:January 13th, 2003 07:13 am (UTC)
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I wouldn't consider someone who eats, say, 3 hamburgers every day very healthy, either.
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From:teddywolf
Date:January 13th, 2003 08:10 am (UTC)
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One small note, not to tread on toes: eating meat may be inherently unhealthy for some humans but is not inherently unhealthy for Humanity, within limits. Smoking is inherently unhealthy for Humanity regardless of limits.
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From:surrealestate
Date:January 13th, 2003 08:33 am (UTC)
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You could also say that being outside downtown is inherently unhealthy, what with all the crap in the air. Or using a computer, or any of tons of aspects of everyday life that have some sort of deleterious effect on some aspect of our health, despite the benefits they may offer.

I agree with you that smoking doesn't have much of anything in the way of benefits.

I still maintain that having some unhealthy habits, whether they are "inherently" so or otherwise, does not inherently make a person unhealthy overall.

I suppose the real question here is how one defines "healthy". Clearly the people conducting the study are doing so in a way that can include smokers.

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From:teddywolf
Date:January 13th, 2003 10:12 am (UTC)
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Absolutely no argument on any of the above - see, I told you it wasn't to step on toes :-)

The range of what's healthy for who is astounding. Some people shouldn't eat meat, some people should. Some people should avoid starches, others need it like lifesblood. Some people die when looked at crosswise by a product that has semi-real peanut products.

Living is inherently hazardous to your health. The real question is the tradeoffs you make and the choices behind them. I respect conscious choices greatly. *poke poke* not that I know anybody like that ;) (kidding!) *poke*
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