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September 28th, 2002
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In working on my dictionary for Jotto, I discovered that the fourth edition of the American Heritage Dictionary has both login and logon defined, both as nouns.

"The process of identifying oneself to a computer, usually by entering one's username and password."

I guess the verb forms are supposed to be separate words? Anyway, I find it neat that they made it into the dictionary. For some reason, seeing lists of newly-added words to dictionaries is always neat.

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From:mattlistener
Date:September 28th, 2002 10:13 pm (UTC)

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I'm curious to know what inclusion rules you're using for the jotto dict? eg...

betel, brant, bream, brill, buteo..... genus/species names?
henry, lewis, texas..... normally-capitalized words with non-cap jargon meanings?
allyl, copra, cotta, gules, loess..... all jargons?
fugal, molal, ohmic..... all adjective forms?
glees, radii, recta..... *really* all plurals?

(For others reading, my vocab isn't that good. I have hard cases easy to hand because I've worked on the jotto dict problem too.)
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From:queue
Date:September 29th, 2002 05:43 am (UTC)

Re: jotto dict

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If it's just a genus/species name, I try to get rid of those. However, all of those specific ones you mentioned are also common names for animals according to the American Heritage Dictionary.

If it has a jargon meaning, it's in there. (Did you know that "kevin" is a name for the gazelle?)

I have no way of knowing if I've got all jargon, but I have all of the ones you listed.

Yes.

Yes. Didn't have "recta", but I just added it.

My method for creating the dictionary (as much as I can remember, anyway):

1. Took the list you sent me from that project that compiled letter strings from many many sources. Filtered that for 5-letter words, then filtered that through dict.org, making sure it only counted dictionary sources, and not things like Hitchcock's Bible Name Dictionary and such.

2. Added all of the 5-letter words from some expanded Scrabble word list of some 263,000 words total.

3. Right now, I'm in the process of checking the 500 or so words that I had that the 263,000-word dictionary didn't. Checking these on dictionary.com. Some are proper or prefixes/suffixes, so they're getting axed from the list. A lot of the ones that I have that it doesn't are obsolete words, which I like, so I'm keeping. It's getting to the point where I can just look at a word on my list and know that Webster's Revised Unabridged is going to tell me that it is obselete and cite Chaucer.
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From:mattlistener
Date:September 30th, 2002 09:30 am (UTC)

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Wow, that's going to be a hard jotto dict. Are you implementing less-inclusive levels as you go?
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From:queue
Date:September 30th, 2002 09:53 am (UTC)

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That's the comprehensive dictionary, the one it uses for verifying words and for solving. I wouldn't want someone to stump it because it used a word it didn't have in its vocabulary.

However, I am also keeping making a separate dictionary for easy (aka normal) words. It will use this dictionary to generate secret words, unless hard secret words are requested.
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