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May 18th, 2006
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Cousins
Lunchtime conversation touched on the topic of cousins. I counted up my cousins (it took a while, since I forgot a couple the first time around because I've seen them only a handful of times). Count your cousins. (First cousins only. Those would be the children of your parents' siblings. Feel free to include step-relationships in there if you feel it's appropriate for your family. One of my uncles has two step-children, and one of my aunts has two step-children, so I'm including them in the count. I don't like them, but then again I don't like some of my actual cousins, either, so I'll go ahead and count the step-cousins.)

Poll #731459 Cousins

How many first cousins do you have?

0-3
8(30.8%)
4-6
4(15.4%)
7-9
5(19.2%)
10-12
3(11.5%)
13-15
2(7.7%)
16-18
1(3.8%)
19-21
0(0.0%)
22-24
2(7.7%)
25-27
1(3.8%)
28-30
0(0.0%)
more than 30
0(0.0%)

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From:magid
Date:May 18th, 2006 07:23 pm (UTC)
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Spouses of the children of my parents' siblings: count as first cousins or not?
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From:queue
Date:May 18th, 2006 07:34 pm (UTC)
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No.
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From:queue
Date:May 18th, 2006 07:54 pm (UTC)
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The question hadn't even occurred to me, since I only have one married cousin, but I've never met the spouse and I hardly ever see that side of the family. My cousins range from in diapers (er, maybe the youngest are recently out of diapers) to in college (or in a trailer). Both of my parents are the oldest child, and they were young when they started having kids.
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From:magid
Date:May 18th, 2006 08:08 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I knew your cousins skew younger than mine, so I wasn't sure if you'd thought about it. (I have cousins whose kids are in college.)

(Counting spouses, btw, it'd be 15 or 16 (depending on where in the divorce process things are).)
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From:treacle_well
Date:May 21st, 2006 12:00 am (UTC)
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Yeah. I don't really even know/remember which of my cousins are married and which are not.
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From:zzbottom
Date:May 18th, 2006 07:24 pm (UTC)
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I know my number would go up with step-cousins, but I don't actually know any of them.Although, now that I think about it, oddly, with my step-mother marrying my uncle after my dad died, my step-brothers are also my step-cousins. Interesting.

Another intersting point. I believe my generation has only averaged about one kid per cousin, so the number more or less stay the same for the next generation.
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From:queue
Date:May 18th, 2006 07:37 pm (UTC)
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Now I'm wondering if there is a tendency for married couples to have close to the same numbers of cousins (the two married couples who have answered this poll so far have selected the same answers). Obviously, hrafn and I had to get divorced because of the cousin imbalance.

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From:jarel
Date:May 19th, 2006 07:12 am (UTC)
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Not to spoil your theory, but although pling and I chose the same answer to the poll, we have different numbers of cousins ;)
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From:magid
Date:May 18th, 2006 07:44 pm (UTC)

PS

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Why did you choose to have the first option be a different range than the others (well, except for the last)?
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From:queue
Date:May 18th, 2006 07:50 pm (UTC)

Re: PS

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I did it accidentally at first, but then I decided not to change it because I figured that there likely wouldn't be anyone with zero cousins, which means that having it there likely would produce a bit more balanced results than doing 0-2, 3-5, etc. Or I was just too lazy to change it once I'd noticed it and so came up with some half-assed rationalization.
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From:magid
Date:May 18th, 2006 08:09 pm (UTC)

Re: PS

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In countries with one-child policies, it'd be more normal to have zero cousins. I wonder whether it changes things.
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From:pling
Date:May 18th, 2006 09:28 pm (UTC)

Re: PS

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I wish you'd seperated out 0 so that I could see if there was anyone else - I have no first cousins. I normally get shocked responses if it comes up in conversation ;)
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From:queue
Date:May 18th, 2006 09:33 pm (UTC)

Re: PS

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If you make your own poll, I'll point people there :-)

Or you can use this as an excuse to email people you don't know. I don't think anyone would mind getting an email from you asking how many cousins they had, especially if they'd already filled out my poll.
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From:pling
Date:May 19th, 2006 07:37 am (UTC)

Re: PS

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Not sure I'm quite that bothered ;)
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From:annarama
Date:May 18th, 2006 09:32 pm (UTC)
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i have 1 full cousin. i have some half-cousins, but i don't know them very well. they are the children of my mother's half-siblings, who she doesn't know very well.

are you counting first cousins twice removed, thrice removed, etc? because if so, i have some of those, too. well, at least half first cousins twice removed and thrice removed.

i think it would be cool to have double cousins.

my husband has like, a million cousins. he comes from a very large family.
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From:queue
Date:May 18th, 2006 09:37 pm (UTC)
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I've never been clear on the whole "removed" thing. What exactly are removed cousins? Are they my parents' cousins? Or my cousins' children? Or what?

My maternal grandfather's brother married my maternal grandmother's sister, so my mom and her first cousins are double cousins (unless you have another deifnition).

One of my bosses has something like 20 aunts and uncles (siblings of his parents, not including spouses), so he has quite a few cousins.
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From:annarama
Date:May 19th, 2006 12:19 am (UTC)
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"removed" means "generation after you" example: your cousin's children (which would be 1 generation after you) would be your first cousins, once removed. your cousin's grandchildren would be your first cousins, twice removed. etc.

that's so cool your mom has double cousins! :D

some day i want to try to figure out who my 2nd and 3rd cousins are. 2nd cousins would be the children of the siblings of your grandparents. 3rd cousins would be the children of the siblings of your great-grandparents.
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From:treacle_well
Date:May 21st, 2006 12:06 am (UTC)
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My maternal grandfather's brother married my maternal grandmother's sister

Have you mentioned this before/ My paternal grandfather's brother and his other brother married my paternal (alas, not maternal--that would have been interesting) grandmother's sister and her other sister, which created a whole generation of cousins who look very much like brothers.
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From:mattlistener
Date:May 20th, 2006 12:28 am (UTC)
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14 cousins just on my mother's side. I'm the oldest of them. :-)
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From:mattlistener
Date:May 20th, 2006 12:35 am (UTC)
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Any such discussion always puts me in mind of this song:

CHORUS:
Now I'm my own grandpa, I'm my own grandpa
It sounds funny I know, but really it's so
I'm my own grandpa

Many many years ago when I was twenty-three
I was married to a widow who was pretty as could be
This widow had a grown-up daughter who had hair of red
My father fell in love with her and soon the two were wed

This made my dad my son-in-law and changed my very life
My daughter was my mother, 'cause she was my father's wife
And to complicate the matter even though it brought him joy
He soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy

The little baby then became a brother-in-law to Dad
And thus became my uncle though it was very sad
For if he was my uncle then that also made him brother
To the widow's grown-up daughter who of course was my step-mother

CHORUS

Father's wife then had a son who kept him on the run
He became my grandchild 'cause he was my daughter's son
My wife is now my mother's mother and it makes me blue
Although she is my wife she is my grandmother, too

Now if my wife is my grandmother then I'm her grandchild
Every time I think about it nearly drives me wild
'Cause now I have become the strangest case you ever saw
As husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpa

CHORUS
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From:treacle_well
Date:May 20th, 2006 11:57 pm (UTC)
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Hmmm. Why didn't I see this when I was skimming yesterday? (Amazingly this is the first I've logged in to LJ today).

11 counting step-cousins and dead cousins.

9 if I don't count step-cousins.

8 if I also don't count dead cousins.
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